September 23, 2020

SPIRITUAL DISCERNMENT – MEDJUGORJE, A CASE STUDY (2Tim4:1-5) PART 2-3

Continued from PART 1 – Medjugorje Case Study

“Teachers to Suit their Own Liking or Wander into Myths”

CATHOLIC DOORS MINISTRY -the Bible Course “SPIRITUAL DISCERNMENT” ] PART 2 – 3 Begins here

THE HISTORY OF A MANIFESTATION – ( italics Medjugorje Seers-)

When it is alleged that a supernatural manifestation has taken place, certain questions must be asked regarding its early history

It is a known fact that wherever major recognized apparitions have taken place during the history of the Church such as at Fatima, Lourdes, etc… there were nearly 50 false claims that followed in the neighborhood of each of those locations. Those false claims involved Satan’s attempt to discredit the genuine heavenly manifestations prior to their official recognition by the Catholic Church. Medjugorje Seers- It can be confirmed that sister revelations are occurring from visitors to Medjugorge around the globe all claiming such apparitions, despite the original gospa statements to the effect that Medjugorje is the LAST TIME EVER, she will come to her children’s aide. NOW WHO WOULD WANT THAT? …. LUCIFER?

Portrayed as VISION / MIRACLE – YOU DECIDE?

To all six, then she said, I have come to call the world to conversion for the last time, because then I will no longer appear on the earth . (Lj., p. 98) She also said to Mirjana: This is the last time that Jesus and Mary are on earth. Fr. Vlasic wrote to Pope John Paul II: These are the last apparitions of Our Lady on Earth. And it is precisely for the reason why they are so long and frequent. [City all these statements more than a DECADE old]
Fr Vlasic was relieved of duties and the defrocked spiritual director, left the area with him, finally stopped hearing confessions he had lost that privileged from the Bishop. (City – Their gospa proclaimed him a Saint!?)

Fr Vlasic Involvement provides us a Case Study in “DEVIANT CHURCH”!,( one of the 5 Pillars of SECRET SOCIETY – CORRUPTION)

Based on the aforementioned, it can be said that in instances where the spiritual manifestation is the first of its kind in a certain region, there is a greater probability that it is genuine.

Following their approval, most major Church apparitions experience the copy-cat syndrome. There are a number of reasons as to why this syndrome takes place. Some of these reasons are:

1. Satan seeks to confuse and divide the faithful as to which supernatural manifestation is genuine and which one is not. Why? Because he does not want the faithful listening to the heavenly voices that descend upon the faithful in true supernatural manifestations. Medjugorje SEERS – On the Medjugorje.com webpage for 08-15-1984, feast of the Assumption, they have posted a letter of Cardinal Ratzinger.

Cardinal Ratzinger

August 15, 1984

Cardinal Ratzinger

Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger, Prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, was interviewed and questioned about Medjugorje in what became known as The Ratzinger Report. Cardinal Ratzinger spoke of the policy of the Congregation in regards to Medjugorje and other apparitions:

“In this area, more than ever, patience is the fundamental principle of the policy of our Congregation. No apparition is indispensable to the faith; Revelation terminated with Jesus Christ. He himself is the Revelation. But we certainly cannot prevent God from speaking to our time through simple persons and also through extraordinary signs that point to the insufficiency of the cultures stamped by rationalism and positivism that dominate us. The apparitions that the Church has officially approved-especially Lourdes and Fatima, have their precise place in the development of the life of the Church in the last century. They show, among other things, that Revelation, still unique, concluded and therefore unsurpassable, is not yet a dead thing but something alive and vital. Moreover, prescinding Medjugorje, on which I cannot express a judgment since the case is still being examined by the Congregation-one of the signs of our times is that the announcements of ‘Marian apparitions’ are multiplying all over the world.” [ In this post you will learn WHY he does not make a judge.]

City would contend, that this statement was NOT positive as those having understanding know that 95% of the apparitions cited are false. Without explanation, the Church is being showered with “apparitions citing like people used to shower the U S A government with UFO citing, and probably still do. Ratzinger makes the point that faith is important and the public revelation cannot be changed. quoting from the Cardinals words, ” No apparition is indispensable to the faith; Revelation terminated with Jesus Christ. He himself is the Revelation.


2. Mentally ill individuals have been known to fabricate false claims.

3. Those who seek fame attempt to associate themselves with any apparitions, credible or not, by making false claims of supernatural manifestations. Medjugorje Seers- The history of apparitions the souls are deeply HUMBLE and never seek Fame or fortune from the grace received….Not true with these Medjugorge Voyants, went public before the 5th day and Bishop complained about the priest and SEERS families cashing in on arranging pilgrimages, back in 1981.

4. Those who seek financial gain seek to associate themselves to any apparitions, credible or not, usually through their writing and the selling of their books, tapes and religious articles, the organization of pilgrimages, etc… Medjugorje a huge commercial enterprise has developed while nothing supernaturals is confirmed? They do not know how to end it, having promised, “The miracle?

Two other concerns should be listed regarding the unique characteristics of false apparitions.

First, when private revelations (messages/locutions) are alleged by a mystic, it should be determined if his private revelations are identical to or contain “terminology” used in other alleged private revelations. History has shown that false mystics tend to, consciously or unconsciously, copy the material of other alleged mystics. This results from reviewing reading material of other alleged mystics, listening to their recorded tapes, or even from what they heard by word of mouth….. Medjugorje Voyants: the copy-cat standard is so plagiarized, so over repeated, you can cut this duplicity with a knife. After 38 years the messages appear, to be nothing more than an ongoing Fatima or Other Church approved revelations of Mary. T he exception, when NEW DOCTRINE’s are agreeable to URI are being eschewed. [URI – united religious institute], or they are mocking the Church or Mary

Secondly, many false mystics attempt to associate themselves with other mystics who appear to be genuine. They reason that if they mention recognized and/or non-recognized sites of apparitions in their private revelations, they will gain credibility and draw a following towards their cause. This is not necessarily true. What happens when the Church condemns a mystic’s private revelations that were mentioned in the alleged private revelations of the copy-cat mystic? By association, the copy-cat mystic has automatically condemned himself! Medjugorje Voyants: In this age of post Vatican protestantizations, doctrinal heresies abound, outrages, sacrileges and Indifferentism is accepted in silence to “not offend” the flock in error!

Reporter surprises Seer backs-off – Not in Ecstasy, then she fabricates ridiculous “Mary dropping Jesus, she was going to catch Him.” [In video – she jumped backwards away from gospa?]

For example, let us suppose that Mirjana, an alleged mystic, claims through private revelations that he has received, he was told that the private revelations of Ivan, also an alleged mystic, are true. Then the Catholic Church proclaims that the alleged private revelations of Ivan are not supernatural manifestations but rather fabrications of her own mind, this being based on the fact that some of her writings oppose the teachings of the Catholic Church. Automatically, since Mirjana claimed that Ivan’s private revelations were authentic when they were not according to the Church, then Mirjana has discredited his own private revelations. Not only is God incapable of making an error. He granted this authority to His Apostles and his Bride, the Church. He would never abandoned His Word or His Bride….because He said so!

Medjugorje SEERS: -1984-1985 The demon is Authorized to Act; Mirjana was told by Our Lady that this time in which we have entered is a particular time given to satan. Our Lady said: “ “The hour has come when the demon is authorized to act with all his force and power. The present hour, is the hour of satan.” Along with this, Our Lady also warned Mirjana that there would be many reports of visionaries and messages coming from Heaven, but “many” would only be pretending to see Jesus and His Mother, Mary. [So Mijana uses Cardinal Ratzingers August, 1984 letter for a message from heaven for her deviant Church following, knowing they wouldn’t have read it….like she did, apparently. [Here we learn Satan is in charge,this is safe as many approved apparitions have said this including St John, in Revelations. While she Mocks God’s people and Mary by repeating what Ratzinger had said in August about many copy-cat apparitions. -1984-1985

You are Divided- [Spirit of Satan is Division] giving glory to Satan once more as above….It was in regards to confusion that occurred when an Orthodox child was cured. A Catholic priest was questioning why this child was given such a grace . [ here comes the Rain Maker of Heresies from Mijana (gospa) Arrogance “Tell this priest, tell everyone, that it is you who are divided on earth. The Muslims and the Orthodox, for the same reason as Catholics, are equal before my Son and me. You are all my children. Certainly, all religions are not equal, but all men are equal before God, as St. Paul says. [Mirjana /gospa attempts to walk back the 1981 many statements, “on all religions are good and equal before our eyes”.] [Why does Mary need to mediate with this voyant? “ go tell her priest, herself?” ] Mirjana preaches “It does not suffice to belong to the Catholic Church to be saved, but it is necessary to respect the Commandments of God in following one’s conscience. [The Dinger- respect vs Obey?, sounds like Modernism, not Mary, I am certain she would say OBEY the God’s Commandments). Also “following one’s own conscience” is NOT the Catholic standard, but more “Masonic.- Modernism, – “Choosing” is the root English for the Greek Heresy.” ….Does not the Catholic Church define the standard for all of God’s peoples? Indeed!

Duplicity another sign of the Devil. She never deals with why the priest is so surprised, how an Orthodox boy was chosen, but jumps on the opportunity show us she has been reading her catechism… a very good sign. However, reversing doctrine however, LOCKS THEM into an indefensible position, of Duplicity, common for Masonic Oaths, and Islam dogmas. The October ,1981 breach is 180 degrees opposed to this 1984-85 classic statement..

THE FRUITS OF THE SPIRIT – ( Medjugorje proponants ) Unfortunately, such disregard and disobedience to Church authority has become legion and is now a veritable industry unto itself. Pilgrimages, conferences, books, magazines, blogs and websites have erupted like mushrooms in response to the “apparitions” and “messages”from Medjugorje. This leads us to the necessary discussion of the second of the two distinctions that must be made when discussing the phenomenon that is Medjugorje: the response of the faithful and the good fruits that have flowed from rejecting what the Church has declared to be Non constat de supernaturalitate.

As part of its investigation, the Catholic Church reviews the fruits that are produced in:
1. the mystic, and, 2. the community, as a result of the alleged supernatural manifestations.

“The fruits of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, generosity, faithfulness, gentleness, and self-control.” [Gal. 5:22-23] Such fruits support that the alleged supernatural manifestations may be of Heaven.

“Now the works of the flesh are obvious: fornication, impurity, licentiousness, idolatry, sorcery, enmities, strife, jealousy, anger, quarrels, dissensions, factions, envy, drunkenness, carousing, and things like these.” [Gal. 5:19-21] To simplify the understanding of some of these words, older Catholic Bibles use synonyms such as: adultery, fornication, uncleanness, witchcraft, hatred, discord, conflict, heresies and murder. Such fruits support that the alleged supernatural manifestations are not of Heaven.t
Medjugorje Voyants- discord, conflict, heresies, impurity, (Murder-War, not peace 1991-99), dissensions, disobedience, envy, carousing (priestly adultery) of spiritual director (broken vows of 5 such spiritual directors at a minimum) Canadian and French visiting priests are arrested. Finally City has included several examples of one voyants complete lack of humility and commercialization ( Forbidden Book) of her seer fame.

One of 875 Books Offerings on AMAZON for this UNAPPROVED APPARITION

In a genuine supernatural manifestation, healthy religious devotions and spiritual fruits are observed. In other words, individual piety is observed versus the activities of extreme groups.

When a genuine supernatural manifestation has taken place, the mystic is drawn closer to Jesus. His desire to serve others is strengthened. True growth in Jesus is observed.

Over and above this, there is a growth in the mystic’s living faith. This means that there is growth in the mystic’s prayer life and in the receiving of the Church Sacraments.

At the same time, it should be noted that a community growth in the receiving of the Church Sacraments does not authenticate an alleged supernatural manifestation. It authenticates that the grace of God is at work in the individuals who have allowed themselves to be touched by the Lord.

Some of the faithful strongly affirm that non-approved alleged sites of apparitions are authentic contrary to the Proclamation of the Catholic Church. They base their conclusion on two things. First of all, the place feels holy. Secondly, they heard of the many miracles that took place at such a place.

Authenticating an alleged supernatural manifestation on what it feels is to sensationalize one’s faith. It is to build one’s faith on sand, not on a solid foundation. The conclusion of such a believer is not based on the inspiration of the Holy Spirit. It a faith based on the beauty of a Church, its landscape, candle processions, the singing of uplifting songs, the smell of incense, the large number of people going to Church, etc…

NEW HOTELS BUILT, for Pilgrims, OWNERS? SEERS? Hmmmmm!

Secondly, authenticating an alleged supernatural manifestation on alleged “many miracles” is a very weak case to support. Indeed, that is exactly what they are, “alleged miracles,” not true miracles. “Alleged miracles” are deceptive fruits, fruits of the father of lies. …Medjugorje Voyants- City can not speak to this, but many have been alleged, from worshipers, and I am unaware of miracles thru a seers or definitely not their defrocked charismatic priests.

When there has been an Ecclesiastical Proclamation that “there is no evidence of supernaturality” (non constat de supernaturalitate) and members of the Church continue to allege “many miracles,” such members have become children of Satan. Not only are they opposing the Ecclesiastical Proclamation, but they are also confusing and dividing the members of the Church who no longer know who and what to believe. Should they believe the Bishop of the community where the alleged supernatural manifestations are taking place or the non-resident persons who basically are saying that the Bishop is in error (or lying)? Or again, should they believe the persons who seeks to profit from the alleged supernatural manifestation?.. Medjugorje Voyants- Over 25 years of this dissent!!!!

A matter to consider in the investigation of alleged private revelations is their simplicity. Can the average faithful grasp what is being said? Are the faithful required to read books after books of alleged private revelations in order to try and understand what is being said, material that sometimes is contradictory?… ..Medjugorje Voyants- Mirana’s book was forbidden and that by itself should have warned a faithful Catholic that her book contains heresies or worse. A New Order Religion “URI”possibly?

Genuine private revelations bring peace of mind. They are not disturbing. They reflect a loving and merciful God who disciplines His children versus a vengeful God who punishes the world for its evil. A loving and merciful God permits certain events to happen in the world for the conversion of the people. Private revelations of a vengeful god, those that usually predict the end of the world, are not of God. Every century since the foundation of the Catholic Church has seen the coming and going of such false mystics.

As stated in the Catechism of the Catholic Church, “Throughout the ages, there have been so-called ‘private’ revelations, some of which have been recognized by the authority of the Church. They do not belong, however, to the deposit of faith. It is not their role to improve or complete Christ’s definitive Revelation, but to help live more fully by it in a certain period of history. Guided by the Magisterium of the Church, the sensus fidelium knows how to discern and welcome in these revelations whatever constitutes an authentic call of Christ or his saints to the Church.” . ..Medjugorje Voyants- As with any true vision of an authentic private revelation nature WE are NEVER called to believe any of it.

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“Christian faith cannot accept ‘revelations’ that claim to surpass or correct the Revelation of which Christ is the fulfillment, as is the case in certain non Christian religions and also in certain recent sects which base themselves on such ‘revelations.'” (C.C.C. # 67)

Any spiritual manifestation that suggest a new revelation that surpasses the public revelation that was completed in Jesus Christ, must be rejected. Public Revelation was completed in Jesus Christ and is found in the Bible and Sacred Tradition of the Church. (C.C.C. # 65-7) ..Medjugorje therefore must be REJECTED, by this definition alone . Thus their error is Scandalous!

When investigating private revelations, the searcher of the truth must ask himself if the alleged messages bring about a greater knowledge and understanding of the public revelation that was completed in Jesus Christ. While no private revelation can claim to surpass or correct the revelation that was given to us by Jesus Christ, they can assist the faithful in their spiritual growth towards a better understanding of what they have already received through Christ…. ..Medjugorje accomplishes this, while at the same time is “teaching disobedience to their Bishop and Church Hierarchy, which ultimately harmful to the Church’s faith, its once faithful, and sinful in character.

In instances, when private revelations contain details about the life of Jesus and Mary, the Church investigator should be skeptical of such claims. History teaches us that even the Saints provided contradictory details regarding the lives of Jesus and Mary, they often interpreting symbols as facts…Medjugorje to this case study; I have not found any such statements, but after 30+ years of “babels” from our Seers. So City assesses a pass on this point, but defers judgment to others through a deeper study .

The faithful’s personal interpretation of symbols can set a very dangerous model of behavior. For example, a mystic may have claimed to have seen a vision of God the Father as an Old Man, the Holy Spirit as a Dove and Jesus on the Holy Cross. This symbolic vision does not mean that God the Father is really an Old Man or that the Holy Spirit is a Dove. Such a vision is symbolic in nature, confirming the truth to the Three Divine Persons in the Holy Trinity…. Medjugorje, to my research These Seers are free of this error? But the Church teaches, God is free to reveal Himself in any form, He desires.

In the Old Testament, we hear the Words of God the Father who said, “I am God and no mortal,” [Hos. 11:9] This is echoed in the Catechism of the Catholic Church where we read, “(God the Father) is neither man nor woman: he is God. He also transcends human fatherhood and motherhood, although he is their origin and standard: [Ps 27:10; Eph 3:14; Is 49:15] no one is father as God is Father.” (C.C.C. # 239) “The purification of our hearts has to do with paternal or maternal images, stemming from our personal and cultural history, and influencing our relationship with God. God our Father transcends the categories of the created world. To impose our own ideas in this area “upon him” would be to fabricate idols to adore or pull down.” [C.C.C. # 2779)

God the Father is neither man nor woman. He transcends human fatherhood and motherhood. He transcends the categories of the created world. To impose our own personal opinions, that God the Father is an Old Man, is to fabricate an idol to adore and pull down from Heaven. Such opposes Catholic teachings.

THE SEER

While much of what has already been said had to do with supernatural manifestations, what follows will mainly have to do with the alleged mystic. .Medjugorje Seers- I I recall the video, several, ( but not all) went up he hill side to smoke in secret….disobedient….not near and dear to the Hearts of Mary and Jesus….typically selected. [this was a red flag!]

Medjugorje Voyants – Can YOU see the PEACE in their EYES?

DISPOSITION OF THE ALLEGED SEER

A genuine mystic is positively disposed in three areas:
1 A willingness to submit himself to a spiritual director. Medjugorje Seers- YES 2 A willingness to cooperate with a Church investigation. Medjugorje Seers- YES
3 A willingness to be obedient to the final Proclamation of the Church. Medjugorje Seers- NO.

“The Pope can say whatever he wants, I am telling you like it is!” -so says 1 Medjugorje Seer!

When an alleged mystic refuses to submit himself to a spiritual director and/or refuses to cooperate with a Church investigation, and/or rejects the final Proclamation of the Church, the alleged supernatural manifestations of such a person cannot be and are not of God. Medjugorje Seer – selected “saint” as spiritual advisor, keeps his pregnant mistress!

THE INTERPRETATION OF PRIVATE REVELATIONS

Prudence dictates that a mystic should never disclose his private revelations to the public prior to having these who is more qualified in the matter. Nor should a mystic provide, privately or publicly, his personal interpretation of private revelations or visions. History tells us that even some of the saints (Example: Saint John of Arc) have been known to misinterpret their own spiritual experiences…… Medjugorge Seers- YES, so much so, that they were accused of hatching them up with the Franciscans. But of course, five Spiritual Directors have been discredited, sent to an island far away or defrocked, altogether.

While the personal opinion of a mystic in the public does not necessarily discredit his private revelations, one should question as to why a mystic would be seeking public attention. This can be viewed as the sin of pride, especially when the mystic continuously bypasses his spiritual director.
Medjugorge Seers- Of course as children became adult, and the priest were discredited….they became more autonomous.

GOD CENTERED

In genuine cases of supernatural manifestations, a spiritual transformation takes place within the mystic. The mystic becomes more God-centered and less self-centered (or worldly as one would say). If supported by other signs, physical and/or spiritual, the spiritual growth of the mystic can be viewed as a confirmation that the grace of God has touched him in some way. Medjugorje Seers- no opinion?, Questions however remain, when Ivan ran off to war, and another got married, as a pilgrim I questioned this and their explanation just never added up to one that had a mystical encounter with our Heavenly Mother. It was incomprehensible to me. What bothered me, most of the villagers were not going to mass, saying rosaries or converting, remaining communist, while renting us rooms? So based on my experiences alone, Medjugorje failed God centered Test.

After 10yrs of queen of peace from 1981: 1991 WAR IN Former YUGOSLAVIA 1999

HUMILITY

In true supernatural manifestations, a mystic is observed to be humble. He does not boast of having been favored by God, nor seek to do public appearances. He feels unworthy of such a grace, often asking why God would choose him, a sinner, rather than someone else who must certainly be more holy. Nor does he set himself apart as being a ‘chosen one,’ a ‘privileged one,‘ an ‘Apostle of the End Times,’ a ‘true Catholic,’ or other glorious titles that belittles the other members of the community of faithful. In the eyes of God, all are equal.

“The Pope can say whatever he wants, I am telling you like it is!” -so says 1 Medjugorje Seer!

….Medjugorje Seers- I do not judge this matter. Yet many printed quotes suggest humility is not a strong suit of several of these mystics. In Medjugorje, however, the Apparition has never asked for“reparation” to obtain the conversion of sinners, schismatics, pagans, Muslims, atheists …Indeed, she has always said to “respect every man in his faith,” and of this she makes it as an absolute and primordial duty. 2 Not only that, but through Mirjana she says, “You don’t believe if you don’t respect other religions, Muslim and Orthodox. You are not Christians if not respect them.” Now, this talk of “the lack of religious unity” which is a Masonic slogan., NOT Catholic Dogma of 2000 years.

PERSONAL CLAIMS

The fact that a true mystic is usually humble, he has no need or desire to go public and make claims of miracles. A personal desire to make public appearances echo pride and fame. During such appearances, medically non-proven exaggerated (and false) claims of miraculous healings confirm the sin of pride and the alleged mystic’s desire to draw crowds towards himself. Mirjana becomes chair person for our Lady -For example, when Mirjana was asked if she expected other apparitions of the “Madonna,” she replied: «We’ll arrange it and come to an agreement together. Today, I will coordinate it with her and find out when she will appear tomorrow.OR stating she saw that the gospa did what the Church does. —Another odd occurrence is that the“Madonna” blessed objects of piety: rosaries, medals and other[things]. Once, Mirjana,unable to raise the bag that she had filled with objects to be blessed, saw the Madonna bend down to bless the contents. Now, it is inconceivable that Madonna would perform such a gesture, because the blessing of objects of devotion is part of the sacerdotal ministry, excluding then, even the Holy Virgin!

Only the clergy of the Catholic Church has the ecclesiastical authority to officially make a claim of a miracle, this only after having professionally looked at every other possibilities. One should beware of those who allege that through their prayers or their leadership in prayer groups, there has been a great number of miraculous healings. Claims such as the relief of a headache or an upset stomach cannot be considered as a miraculous healing; it may be viewed as an answered prayer. At the same time, it should not be forgotten that headaches and upset stomachs can disappear on their own.

In true humility, a mystic would never claim with absolute certainty that all of his private revelations or supernatural manifestations are divinely inspired. If the mystic does so, the probability exists that Satan is involved.

….….Medjugorge Seers- In Medjugorje, on the contrary, the differences of religions and false doctrines, do not count in the eyes of the “Apparition.” So the great Rabbi, the fake Arch-bishop of Canterbury, the bloodthirsty Ayatollah Khomeini, the Dalai Lama,etc., are all the same ministers of God by which He brings people together and directs the one Church that will come. This is more than aberrant . Medjugorje FAILS shamefully this Humility TEST

IN THE WORLD, BUT NOT OF THE WORLD

A mystic who has genuinely been touched by the grace of God is in the world, but not of the world. Those who know him, they observe a simpler life. This means that: 1. the mind of the mystic is focused on spiritual things, 2. the mystic enjoys a longing for his eternal life in the presence of Jesus, and 3. he progressively becomes detached from his worldly possessions. Contrary to this, a false mystic gathers more possessions. Females are observed to adorn themselves with jewelry, especially a number of rings. The mind of the false mystic is focused on money, not of God. Medjugorje ICONS of AVARICE

Vicka – webstory – http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread1239379/pg1 Report on wealth of seers: https://www.marcocorvaglia.com/medjugorje-en/the-seers-and-an-unescapable-conflict-of-interests.html

Slobodna Dalmacija, in another article entitled The seer of Medjugorje rents to tourists her Hvar stunning luxury house! And there are also hotels in Medjugorje in her name…, wrote


A SENSE OF AWE


When a person is deeply touched by the grace of God, he is left with a sense of awe at the greatness of God and/or what has been revealed. The same rule applies to the mystic who has experienced supernatural manifestations. The mystic may or may not fully understand the spiritual experience. But he will reflect upon it, seek greater knowledge and understanding, all for the purpose of personal spiritual growth in Christ Jesus. ….Medjugorje Seers -See Morals Tests below!.Medjugorje Seers -See Morals Tests below! Yes CityofGod.Blog is in AWE at these SEERS STUNNING DISPLAY OF AVARICE achieved thru SATAN. (pior captioned web-pages)

HONESTY

The genuine mystic is honest. When asked to relate his supernatural experiences, he constantly relates the same facts. Nothing is added as time goes by to increase the awesomeness of the manifestations so he can receive more credibility. While some mystics claim to have forgotten some of the details of their alleged supernatural manifestations after a few years, such is not the case with a genuine mystic. Even 25 years later, he remembers the details. His soul is marked for life, the spiritual manifestation having left an imprint that can never depart from him… ….Medjugorje Seers- please see this web-page — Medjugorje: Old Lies, New Admissions by Craig L.Heimbichner ; { list 11 most problematic lies up to 1999. http://www.unitypublishing.com/Apparitions/MedjugorjiLies.html OR Foley’s book Medjugorje Revisited: 30 Years of Visions or Religious Fraud? is a must-read for anyone interested in the most popular unapproved apparition in history. Medjugorje Fails Honesty test.

MORALS

Good morals reflect heavenly graces; bad morals reflect Satan at work. Where the grace of God is at work, the community at large can observe the good morals of the mystic and of those who have been touched by supernatural manifestations. Not only does the mystic know and understand the difference between right and wrong, but he practices righteousness and detests what is wrong. .Medjugorje Seers-Here, the expert Laurentinhas lost the right judgment and the “sensus fidei”that allows you to see what there is that is worthy of God! Again, a nun in the house of Jakov,during an appearance on the “Madonna”, heard Mary asking him if she wanted to touch the Virgin Mary. She said, yes. «Then, she grabbed my right hand, lifting it up to the shoulder of the Virgin Mary, and led me, then down, pointing, in succession, what I touched, and that is … I caressed her down to the feet (Lj., p. 52)! But how can such an action come from God? … Isn’t it disturbing? … nauseating?The “seers” of Medjugorje even say they had been “simply taken by the hand and led by the Madonna in heaven”: We have seen heaven and purgatory,” said Mar-ija. “One time, in Vicka’s, another time in my house,and once again, I do not know where.»7What a super abundance of extraterrestrial travel The “seers” of Medjugorje, however, speak of heaven as a place of a few things: many joyful people, a man who acts as a gatekeeper, flying angels. In short, everything is different from the earth with a more brilliant sun shining. What foolishness and ridiculous descriptions, in which God and the Virgin are strangely absent. In conclusion, the Medjugorje visionaries have seen nothing, not the home of the Most Holy Trinity, or Christ in His Glory, or the Immaculate Mother of God,but only a grotesque caricature of evil, devoid of any knowledge of the Divine Mysteries !!!… Medjugorje==FAILS morals test.

On the MATTER OF IGNORANCE:

25th Year Anniversary photo – Nothing supernatural, DEFY the Bishops the CHURCH,

Moral theology divides ignorance into a number of categories. The two I will consider here are invincible and vincible. Ignorance is invincible if a person could not remove it by applying reasonable diligence in determining the answer. Ignorance is vincible if a person could remove it by applying reasonable diligence. Reasonable diligence, in turn, is that diligence that a conscientious person would display in seeking the correct answer to a question given (a) the gravity of the question and (b) his particular resources.

The gravity of a question is determined by how great a need the person has to know the answer. The answers to fundamental questions (how to save one’s soul, how to preserve one’s life) have grave weight. The answers to minor questions (the solution to a crossword puzzle) have light weight.

The particular resources a person has include (a) the ease with which he can obtain the information necessary to determine the answer and (b) the ease with which he can make an accurate evaluation of the evidence once it is in his possession. The graver the question and the greater the resources available, the more diligence is needed to qualify as reasonable. The lighter the question and the fewer the resources available, the less diligence is needed to qualify as reasonable. END Part 2

Daily Indulgence: Partrial (up to 7yrs), (S.P. Ap., Jun 26,1937, and Jul 8, 1939). RACCOLTA pg 548,

# 689. The faithful who partake in a retreat in common with others, and devoutly assist at the sacred conferences, are granted:

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